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The Conversation: Tourism consultant reacts to CNHA $34M marketing contract; Chief Energy Officer discusses oil dependence

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Catherine Cruz is the host of The Conversation. Contact her at ccruz@hawaiipublicradio.org.
Savannah Harriman-Pote is the energy and climate change reporter. She is also the lead producer of HPR's "This Is Our Hawaiʻi" podcast. Contact her at sharrimanpote@hawaiipublicradio.org.
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